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| Author | Topic: K6-2+ |
| Armin High Priest of Athlon |
 posted September 24, 1999 13:04  
Your thoughts and questions? IP: Logged |
| Aslak Heggland Follower of Athlon |
posted September 24, 1999 16:28
It`s nice to see that the Super7 is still alive. Does anybody know if it`s gonna be 133MHz bus? I hope it uses the new 3DNow! instructions from Athlon. IP: Logged |
| Postmand_Per Follower of Athlon |
posted September 24, 1999 16:30
Personally I would prefer buying an Athlon, but if you'r low on cash or you are only making everyday office-stuff and don't need the Athlon's fpu-power, then it seems like a reasonable upgrade. ------------------ IP: Logged |
| Troodon Follower of Athlon |
posted September 24, 1999 18:38
I will buy one when I burn my actual overclocked K6-2. IP: Logged |
| Akma Follower of Athlon |
posted September 24, 1999 19:29
Suppose it had 128kB L2, 133MHz FSB and the new 3DNow! instructions. Shouldn't it be called the K6-IV then instead of K6-2+? Where's the logic to the world? Anyone? IP: Logged |
| MeenMunky Follower of Athlon |
posted September 24, 1999 19:35
Hmmmm..... .18 microm eh? It would make a great mobile processor. IP: Logged |
| Burmese Follower of Athlon |
posted September 24, 1999 22:41
The real question is, will they add the newer 3DNow! instrustions and MTRR that the Athlon uses? The last thing a software developer needs is to have to test for two different levels of 3DNow! support and then code the program for both cases. Having MTRR that matches Intel will simplify life for the video card manufacturers. ------------------ IP: Logged |
| Pieter Follower of Athlon |
posted September 25, 1999 02:20
i hope they include 3dnow(2) into every new model this would make support a no brainer! Yeah what logic, i think Amd sees an opening left by Cyrix and IDT in the budget region. ------------------ Pieter :*) IP: Logged |
| Troodon Follower of Athlon |
posted September 25, 1999 19:32
Anybody knows if it will use copper interconnections? [This message has been edited by Troodon (edited September 25, 1999).] IP: Logged |
| PsyKo Follower of Athlon |
posted September 28, 1999 01:30
I think AMD is going to do the smart thing and go copper at the same time they switch to .18 micron. Everywhere I look they include the two together: "In early 2000 we'll be switching to .18 micron with copper interconnects," etc etc. I like the strategy that implies, too: K6-2=Celeron, K6-III=PIII, Athlon=Second Only To Alpha. 
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| Troodon Follower of Athlon |
posted September 28, 1999 18:09
If will exist a K6-2+, why not a K6-III+ (with 0,18 micron, copper, etc.)? IP: Logged |
| Aslak Heggland Follower of Athlon |
posted September 29, 1999 07:10
There will. The K6-2+ will come with 0KB, 128KB and 256KB L2. IP: Logged |
| Akma Follower of Athlon |
posted September 29, 1999 17:16
Hmm, once again I have to wonder what is the mysterious Alereon... If the K6-2+ would actually be named that, then there would be more logic to the world... If you have no clue what I'm talking about, check out this: PS. Though the administrative and billing contacts are different from what amd.com has... IP: Logged |
| Burmese Follower of Athlon |
posted September 29, 1999 18:43
I'm betting that an 'Alereon' is an Athlon w/o the 1/2-speed L2 cache...maybe even socket 7 or socket 370 ------------------ IP: Logged |
| Postmand_Per Follower of Athlon |
posted September 30, 1999 07:16
Athlon won't be able to fit into Socket7 or socket370 since it uses a different bus and such. Alereon (Am I the only one who thinks that it's a stupid name?) could be a socketed version or a 'downgraded' version of the original Athlon. ------------------ IP: Logged |
| Akma Follower of Athlon |
posted September 30, 1999 11:11
Hmm, ok, let's compromise... K6-2+ = Alereon = stripped down Athlon :] A name, even a stupid one, is just a name. What's inside counts. PS. Hmm, does that sound too much intel... IP: Logged |
| Postmand_Per Follower of Athlon |
posted September 30, 1999 15:00
quote: You'r right about it's the inside that counts, but couldn't they have came up with a name there was easier to remember? PS. Shouldn't we get some "AMD Inside" stickers to put on ours computers? ------------------ IP: Logged |
| Pierce Follower of Athlon |
posted September 30, 1999 17:02
I got some. 
Honestly, I build my systems and the cases have indents where company stickers are supposed to go. So, I wrote to AMD and they sent me some AMD stickers to put there. IP: Logged |
| chavv Wish I had an Athlon |
posted September 30, 1999 19:37
anyway... if this will be k6 core with 3dnow(2), on-die L2 cache, it won't be good enough. it must have better FPU. or else... celeron 3 will rule... ;( IP: Logged |
| Troodon Follower of Athlon |
posted October 02, 1999 10:52
And maybe a fixed multiplier? IP: Logged |
| Mike Follower of Athlon |
posted October 02, 1999 17:47
Why on earth would we want a fixed multiplyer. One of the reasons the K6-x has done so well is that people know there is nothing to stop them overclocking. Also AMD have said before they have no plans to implement clock locks ------------------ IP: Logged |
| Mike Follower of Athlon |
posted October 02, 1999 17:48
Why on earth would we want a fixed multiplyer? One of the reasons the K6-x has done so well is that people know there is nothing to stop them overclocking. Also AMD have said before they have no plans to implement clock locks ------------------ IP: Logged |
| Akma Follower of Athlon |
posted October 05, 1999 17:16
Talking about stupid names, what do you think of Intels' new Itanium? IP: Logged |
| Osiris Priest of Athlon |
posted October 05, 1999 20:06
Well I think Itanium is something that will get nicely dented by a certain sledgehammer. Regards, Steve IP: Logged |
| Pieter Follower of Athlon |
posted October 06, 1999 09:14
the name sounds crappy indeed, but what will the cpu do ? :-) Are they gonna pull another stunt, and so what is it ? ------------------ Pieter :*) IP: Logged |
| Akma Follower of Athlon |
posted October 06, 1999 15:22
Talking about sledgehammers (trust me, I know what I'm doing) I'd have use for one... 
Darn, what a smashing name! [This message has been edited by Akma (edited October 06, 1999).] IP: Logged |
| Postmand_Per Follower of Athlon |
posted October 06, 1999 16:47
Cool name
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| Troodon Follower of Athlon |
posted October 06, 1999 17:23
This seems to be a competition to get the most stupid name posible (and in the area of stupidity Intel is the best) [This message has been edited by Troodon (edited October 06, 1999).] IP: Logged |
| MeenMunky Follower of Athlon |
posted October 06, 1999 18:54
I'll use my titanium sledgehammer to smash up Itaniums.
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| uart Wish I had an Athlon |
posted October 26, 1999 04:23
I think Itanium is an appropriate name, the Coppermine contains no copper and the Itanium contains no titanium. IP: Logged |
| uart Wish I had an Athlon |
posted October 26, 1999 04:28
Celeron Worshipper???? WTF. 
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| Akma Follower of Athlon |
posted October 26, 1999 05:35
My thoughts exactly (though I've never been a Celeron worshipper, just a, darn, what was that again...) You should not be offended by the name, just post 11 times to get rid of it. Maybe that would be told in the main page, though that would spoil the surprise (though the reaction to noticing the status usually is the same, ie. 'what the _uck!') Let me predict the names of the three next iNTEL chips: Old, Ilver and Latinum. If the name hasn't got to be a metal, then Xygen or Elium (and perhaps Ydrogen and Itrogen) would do as well. Fortunately there is no element with the symbol Fa, so Famine is out of question. IP: Logged |
| Imitation Follower of Athlon |
posted October 28, 1999 07:04
Famine.... IP: Logged |
| Akma Follower of Athlon |
posted October 28, 1999 15:53
There's CuMine, so why not FaMine?
If I was utterly a bastard, I'd say that they (intel) have already been testing that chip in Africa. But I won't say that. IP: Logged |
| Imitation Follower of Athlon |
posted October 29, 1999 03:39
You just did you tasteless bastard
I seriously hope AMD can keep Super 7 alive. It has a fine alternative to Intel's range of chips. It's up to AMD whether or not Super7 survives.. they're the only ones contributing anything to it. IP: Logged |
| Clint Strickland Follower of Athlon |
posted October 29, 1999 11:01
k6 = socket 7!! socket 7 = AMD! I can see amd going slot one! IP: Logged |
| CASC member Follower of Athlon |
posted October 29, 1999 11:10
If AMD makes K6x on a .18 fab with copper connects and few extras like power windows and keyless remote entry for SS7 then they will rock. we will have to just wait, which shouldn't be to long with speed of technology today. Laterz John IP: Logged |
| Osiris Priest of Athlon |
posted October 29, 1999 17:19
Guys, No offence, but who REALLY cares about socket 7 anymore. a .18um socket 7 processor would probably need a new board anyway thanks to the lower core voltage. So why not buy an athlon. Steve IP: Logged |
| Voriax Follower of Athlon |
posted October 29, 1999 17:48
Well I do care about super 7, that's why I was inquiring about the mobile processors. If AMD is smart they won't drop the core voltage thus it'll be possible to upgrade from older systems without getting a new MoBo. The Amperage will probably drop... Actually if the new .18 socket 7 chips require a new MB then their story is over, who would buy a new MB and a K6-2/3 when athlons are available? would the MB makers even produce new MB's? Considering that I've already bought a new HD, more memory, new Cd-rom drive, new soundcard and new monitor this autumn I'm not that enthusiastic about buying a new processor and MoBo, especially as the current one is 1 year 'old'. Also as the new MB +Athlon 500 costs about 2,5 times as much as a K6-3/450 an upgrade to a better K6 series chip is much more attractive for me than getting an Athlon, now. A year from now..that is another thing. Voriax IP: Logged |
| Pierce Follower of Athlon |
posted October 29, 1999 17:53
You summed up my thoughts Steve. They can add copper, they can shrink the die, they could give it the new 3DNow extensions... but with its rather poor FPU unit they will never steal away the market with such a chip. Quite frankly I love AMD (give me any Intel alternative). Until Athlon the rather sad fact was Intel CPU's were superior. I want Athlon... I want to finally own the superior CPU! Unfortunately, until income tax time I will have to make due with my K6-2's. Pierce IP: Logged |
| Imitation Follower of Athlon |
posted October 30, 1999 00:30
That's the problem with my other puter. It has a Epox MVP3E-M in it... which has a max or 5 x 100 or 500Mhz. So anything else past this will need a new motherboard unless AMD has internal multipliers in future K6-x products... which is totally unlikely. This in turn will result in the purchase of an Athlon as the performance is not there with the K6 line anymore. Most other motherboards are the same as well. They do not offer many more multipliers. There are some which have 124mhz FSB I think. And if the new chip is destined for a 133Mhz bus then that definately means more money to spend for us on new mobo's... although we could still run it at 100mhz fsb. I think that all AMD can do with K6-x is to increase clock speeds. The Athlon has got to a point in price where I can get an Athlon 500 for CHEAPER than a K6-3 500. In Aus anyway... - Imitation. [This message has been edited by Imitation (edited October 30, 1999).] IP: Logged |
| uart Wish I had an Athlon |
posted October 30, 1999 02:32
Facts: All k6-3's and all K6-2 cxt's have multipliers up to 6x. The multiplication is done on the cpu not the motherboard. Speculation: It is extremely likely that any new k6-x's will be compatible with existing mo/bo's. Summary: Stop ya whining. IP: Logged |
| Akma Follower of Athlon |
posted October 30, 1999 09:28
Asus P5A-B manual claims that the fastest FSB is 120MHz. The reason I'm not using 120 for example is that the AGP clock is 80MHz and PCI clock 40MHz... Rumor has it that there are 125 and 133 speeds as well. The maximum multiplier is 6, which means that in theory the board would go 6x133=800MHz! Hmm, why not trying my K6-2 266CXT at 800. If it runs at 400, why not 800? IP: Logged |
| Voriax Follower of Athlon |
posted October 31, 1999 14:34
Akma, do you mean A500 = Amiga 500? Perhaps we have a hidden teamAmiga member here... Voriax IP: Logged |
| Akma Follower of Athlon |
posted November 01, 1999 14:58
Blimey, you got me!
Seriously speaking I'm quite devoted on working for Team 3DNow! this millenium. The next millenium is, however, an another story. 60 days left... IP: Logged |
| Imitation Follower of Athlon |
posted November 01, 1999 21:12
Saw this on Anand's who saw this on Ace's. "According to Digitimes Taiwan, AMD revealed in a recent document to motherboard makers that K6-2+ will debut in Jan, 2000. K6-2+ will debut at 500 Mhz running at 100 Mhz FSB. The report also mentions that K6-2+ can run up to 533 Mhz, which makes me think that there may also be 133-Mhz-FSB version of K6-2+. The K6-2+ will be manufactured using 0.18 micron technology, thus shrinking its die to about 80 square mm. From what we have heard earlier, K6-2+ will have 128K L2 cache on-die. AMD has reportedly sent K6-2+ samples to motherboard makers for testing, and will start producing K6-2+ in quantity by December this year. The report also says that AMD will continue to sell K6-2 and K6-III line of processors once K6-2+ is released, but K6-2+ will have priority over the both K6-2 and K6-III. AMD also expects to sell the K6-2+ line of processors into year 2001. Sounds interesting... even though I haven't read it yet - Imi IP: Logged |
| Troodon Follower of Athlon |
posted January 25, 2000 16:42
When we'll see it in the stores? I want to overclock one, I can't wait!
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| Troodon Follower of Athlon |
posted February 23, 2000 11:18
According to iXBT Labs, the K6-2+ is cancelled (http://www.ixbt-labs.com/news.shtml). IP: Logged |
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