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Get 3DNow! Message Board![]() DCypher Merger![]() Thread 2
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| Author | Topic: Thread 2 |
| Armin High Priest of Athlon |
Let's continue here, I'd like the thread to remain loadable in size. IP: Logged |
| Osiris Priest of Athlon |
Geeze Armin, talk about freaking me out
I went to reply and it puked on me. I just wanted to thank everyone for their opinions so far. It really helps us to get our participants feedback like this. Steve ------------------ IP: Logged |
| Postmand_Per Follower of Athlon |
I'm doing distributed computing because of the stats and not because of the money. As long as DCypher.Net continues to be what it is today (just with even better stats ) I'm staying. I really don't care about PT. I got better things to do than trying to get people to sign up under me....
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| bwhite Wish I had an Athlon |
I think there is much being made over nothing. I see nothing wrong with the "referral" programs that are FREE to join and as a big plus...you get checks in the mail. I enjoy stats and seeing how many people I can get to join. I have a "tree" started at ProcessTree and like watching it grow, even though there is nothing in it for me at this time and will continue if there never is. About getting paid, hey, I'll take it. I belong to some programs where the number of referrals I have is several times the amount of people that currently are members of DCypher. Living in a low income area I like to think of this as an opportunity to Have An Athlon. [This message has been edited by bwhite (edited April 18, 2000).] IP: Logged |
| fredro Priest of Athlon |
i for one only give my cpu cycles up for stats, and a worthwhile meaningful project. money corrupts people. i believe prizes would be better for what your trying to acomplish. maybe the newest video card, or a hot new thunderbird, randomly drawn from a hat. just my 2 cents.
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| Osiris Priest of Athlon |
All: (and fredro) For those of you that like things, just they way they are, there is no need to worry. DCypher.Net will exist for as long as I can envision. There is a VERY important need for free computing power for research and other projects. It is our responsibility (as we are the ones who will also profit from this) to foster the betterment of the human race. While we aren't likely to come up with ground breaking technical solutions (we being the DCypher.Net team), we all feel very strongly that continued support for this research is essential. Therefore, DCypher.Net will continue to exist as it does now. Steve IP: Logged |
| Imitation Follower of Athlon |
Good. I agree with what you said Steve. It's great that you still want to keep this going and that you feel so strongly about it all. It means that you actually DO care about what happens to the thing. - Matt IP: Logged |
| RCI136 Wish I had an Athlon |
When I first got in to distributed computing there was only stats, no prizes! Myself, I've waited a long time for something like PT to come along. I will probably always work on a few good projects at my expense, but now with a little luck PT well get off the ground and I can start getting a little reimbursement for all of my time and energy not to mention the electric bill/upkeep for 5 computers running 24/7;-) You need not to worry, there will always be programs that you can volunteer your time and money on, if not you could always come over to my place and mow my lawn or something for FREE! I promise to give you some stats, like how many blades of grass you cut an hour or something similar to keep you happy:-) Maybe it isn't a good idea for PT to promote the program the way they are, maybe they should have just started the same way as the rest of the programs and then just started paying for cycles. Then again I don't remember people complaining about Yahoo.com or TravelZoo.com giving away free stock and then giving you more when you got your friends to sign up:-) I don't see courts shutting down programs like AllAdvantage for their same promotion practices. There are many more examples. The Internet is a powerful tool! Some of you should use it to inform yourselves on what an a pyramid scheme and MLM really are. Maybe you will then begin to realize that your misinformed negative cries towards PT not only hurt such programs but hurt the people who have waited a long time, patiently for just such an opportunity.
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| fredro Priest of Athlon |
rci136, your right, there are people like you who consider "giving up SPARE cpu cycles very HARD work", and the way i precieve you, you may be a stats junkie also. (5 computers) "spare" cycles USUALLY come from one or two computers. i for one dont care if they do or dont pay for cpu time. i do however find it hard to believe that a ever so efficient program needs to pay people to run it. a few of the other projects are very large, and have a great deal of participants that never ask for cash, or holld out there hand like a starving ethiopean. oh and if you lived close enough to me, i would mow your lawn for free, just to have you keep the blade stats.
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| Pierce Follower of Athlon |
RCI136, Maybe you should get informed yourself. Giving a sign up bonus is not the same thing as a pyramid/Tree/MLM. You do a great disservice to yahoo and travelzoo with your comparison. If I convince Fredro to mow your lawn do I get a percentage of the stats? Sure he does all the work, but I got him to do it! Seems fair to me. IP: Logged |
| Maciek Follower of Athlon |
I like the idea of the merger very much Just because it means more processing power for projects. I hope we will be soon comparable with other projects and maybe beat S@H (not talking about their usefulness here ).
I have some questions: - how people will migrate between projects? Will this possibility be implemented in one client program? or you're going to release some separate clients for both - paid and non-paid projects? Regards, IP: Logged |
| Osiris Priest of Athlon |
Maciek: "- how people will migrate between projects? Will this possibility be implemented in one client program? or you're going to release some separate clients for both - paid and non-paid projects?" This is something that will be implemented in a new round of clients. It will allow you to switch seemlessly and also query what projects are available. "- you mentioned sth like "mixing" projects (FAQ). Is there going to be a possibility to run both paid and non-paid project at the same time on the same machine (2 processors and one IP)?" I don't see why you couldn't. It likely won't be a normal configuration, but it should certainly be possible with a little bit of ingenuity. "- what about people that joined PT and have many referrals? How they are going to be paid for job? Who will be preffered - we or they? Paying projects will be done by ProcessTree rules. As DCypher.Net people have no referrals, one thing we will have to do is allow people who are already signed up with DCypher.Net to add that information. Something we are thinking about. With luck (and more page views) prizes should go up. "- I think payments will be at least comparable to offered by AllAdvantage etc. to make people choose rather our projects or even resign and move here?" Yes. Payout should AT LEAST be comparable, and will probably be substantially better if you have a fast machine. "- what with PT and DCN in long run, are you going to create one group and website for both?" There is one parent company, but both web sites will exist indefinitely. "- can you approximate when first paid project is going to be launched?" We are following up on leads at the moment. Not sure when the first paying project will start, as it is likely we will have to convince various groups that we can and should be entrusted with their data. No promises on this one as consumer demand will dictate when it happens. Steve IP: Logged |
| Maciek Follower of Athlon |
Thanks for answers, Steve. Wish you all fruitful cooperation with ProcessTree
[This message has been edited by Maciek (edited April 17, 2000).] IP: Logged |
| pulsar Wish I had an Athlon |
About the pyramid/Tree/MLM. Why not make some rootnodes for the "Red Cross" and other charity's? Put the fact that you can choose a charity in big letters where you explain the referral program (and maybe on top of that text/page :-). If people are able to choose a charity, I think you will get less opposition to the referral program. Just my 2 cents. IP: Logged |
| Osiris Priest of Athlon |
Pulsar, brilliant!!!! I will forward the suggestion immediately. Steve IP: Logged |
| Shoe Lace Follower of Athlon |
pulsar, That is indeed a wonderfull suggestion. I, for one, will re-apply for a PT account under a charity if it goes ahead.. ------------------ IP: Logged |
| HaKo7 Wish I had an Athlon |
I can't understand, of what you are afraid of. 1. MLM is very different to a pyramid scheme. Otherwise it would be illegal, too. It's just the best way to reach a lot of people WITHOUT cheating them. 2. Nobody is forced to join PT. 3. PT already has the charity-option. You can choose it in your payment-options. I really like the idea of PT. I paid and still pay a lot for my computer, and with PT I can get a little back. HaKo7, PT-Member 8784 IP: Logged |
| Masoch Wish I had an Athlon |
Hi folks, The ultimate option, for me at least, is a credit straight to my credit card. Just a thought ... IP: Logged |
| buefalls Wish I had an Athlon |
Masoch..thats exactly, wath i wos missing... :-) best VinZ ------------------ IP: Logged |
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