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Armin High Priest of Athlon	posted February 23, 2000 08:55          I powered up our lab Athlon 900 with Super Bypass enabled to do some SETI work (basically to see if SB works properly for a prolonged time). Looks like it's doing 7 hour units, but I need a couple more to see if that's on average. IP: Logged
Pieter Follower of Athlon	posted February 23, 2000 10:12          yep thats what mine is doing about also ( over 7 hours (not by much) (500 oc'ed to 600 mhz). Tanware who is a online budy gets near those fgures also (he got a 900mhz+K7Pro). If L2 speed was still at half i think it would rock. So its waiting for faster amd cpu's with half or full speed cache. The superbypass works like a charm (memory is important to seti). Mine is also the K7-Pro Regards, Pieter :*) IP: Logged
fredro Priest of Athlon	posted February 23, 2000 18:26          is that the cmdline armin, or the gui? IP: Logged
Armin High Priest of Athlon	posted February 26, 2000 13:52          cmdline .. still no hard numbers for the block speed, need to send them to a fresh account I guess IP: Logged
DanBall Follower of Athlon	posted February 27, 2000 23:14          I think it is a bad idea to overclock your CPU IP: Logged
Mxyzptlk Follower of Athlon	posted February 28, 2000 02:28          might i ask why u think this dan? (kinda silly to post an opinion without atleast a piece of an explanation) Free speed (or really cheap speed in the case of the Athlon) is generally a good thing ------------------ Screw the world, and everyone in it (yes, this includes you) IP: Logged
Armin High Priest of Athlon	posted February 28, 2000 08:28          Ok, I got hard numbers now. Average unit time for the Athlon 900 on super bypass with a 2/5 cache divider is 6 hours 8 minutes. Unfortunately the super bypass is not entirely stable. I will check the unit times for KX133 tonight. IP: Logged
Pieter Follower of Athlon	posted February 28, 2000 13:54          have u tried setting the ram timing a bit more conservative ? ------------------ Regards, Pieter :*) IP: Logged
Armin High Priest of Athlon	posted February 28, 2000 15:31          KX133 is very fickle about RAM, had to get a 7.5 ns module to get the 133 MHz work at all. Managed to POST the K75-750 at 990, though and booted to the desktop at 920 MHz. IP: Logged
DanBall Follower of Athlon	posted February 28, 2000 16:24          Mxyzptlk, I think it is bad to do that because CPU's are expensive, as well as the other problems it might cause with the other components in your computer. It also depends on if your motherboard is designed for it, My Soyo 5EMA+ is designed for it, but the manuf. doesn't state how to set the FSB to 112 or 124MHz. This motherboard supports FSB speeds of 66, 75, 83, 95, 100, 112, and 124MHz. IP: Logged
Psycho Killa Follower of Athlon	posted February 29, 2000 11:37          But that doesn't make overclocking bad. Its a challenge to me and to many other people. Have you personally tried it yet? To see how far you can push your machine? As for other components in your system, you run a very slim chance harming any other components or really anything in your system if you actually safeguard yourself. When I say safeguard I say read up on your hardware and find other people who have treked ahead of you and learn their outcomes. Make sure you don't use some cheap assed form of cooling like a generic $5 heatsink, unless you plan on making modifications to it. Use thermal compound in between the heatsink/processor to ensure maximum efficency. Overclocking isn't dumb unless you are (not directed to you, just saying if you don't prepair yourself and go in blind you might get burned). -PK ------------------ Dogs are better than Cats. IP: Logged
Pieter Follower of Athlon	posted February 29, 2000 13:56          overclocking is golden, esp. with seti it loves fast memory :-) . regards, Pieter IP: Logged
DanBall Follower of Athlon	posted February 29, 2000 18:39          I could try it with my Cyrix Processor, but not my K6-2 IP: Logged
DanBall Follower of Athlon	posted February 29, 2000 20:36          I was only able to increase the speed of my Cyrix by only 30MHz. (It is a Cyrix MII 300, 233 actual, now considered by the Mobo a Cyrix MII 333, 263 Actual) When I tried it as a Cyrix MII 350, the computer wouldn't start up. And trying it as the Cyrix MII 333 at 4.0 x 66MHz it thought it was a Cyrix MX PR166, so that it ran at 133 MHz. IP: Logged
Psycho Killa Follower of Athlon	posted March 01, 2000 11:56          If you really want to push it you can try to increase the voltage of the processor by a .1 or .2 and see where she goes. With the Cyrix chip I suggest some good cooling though. -PK ------------------ Dogs are better than Cats. IP: Logged
DanBall Follower of Athlon	posted March 01, 2000 12:34          When a program causes an illegal procedure and the first part of the module address is the same most of the time, does that mean I have a DIMM going bad? It usually occurs at 017f:-------- or 0000:-------- recently. [This message has been edited by DanBall (edited March 02, 2000).] IP: Logged
Armin High Priest of Athlon	posted March 05, 2000 07:45          Finished the first couple blocks on a KX133 with the same Athlon 900 running. Looks like it does a unit in 6 hours 13 minutes on average on PC133 CAS3, which is not too bad in comparision with Irongate SuperBypass. I'll see if I can get results from a 220/110 bus combination by overclocking the memory full path, that might be faster than the 200/133 combination. IP: Logged
Raistlin Wish I had an Athlon	posted March 06, 2000 22:17          the time on the Athlon 900 sounds pretty high mine does a unit in 6:58 so for 300mhz difference that aint too good sounds like to me IP: Logged
Armin High Priest of Athlon	posted March 07, 2000 05:13          KX133 running with a 110 FSB and 110 memory bus on the Athlon 900 checks in at 7h 15m per block :P I assume an overclocked super bypass would be the system of choice since the FFT is memory (latency) limited. IP: Logged
Raistlin Wish I had an Athlon	posted March 07, 2000 05:56          I don't know but something is definately wrong there I'm running a k7 600 not overclocked on a giga-byte ga-7ixe mb 100mhz fsb and getting 6hr 58min give or take 5 minutes so something is seriously wrong somewhere that thing should be pushing 5 and ahalf or lower ------------------ Athlon Adept IP: Logged
Armin High Priest of Athlon	posted March 07, 2000 08:05          Under Win98SE or NT? IP: Logged
Raistlin Wish I had an Athlon	posted March 07, 2000 08:35          Windows 98se IP: Logged
Raistlin Wish I had an Athlon	posted March 07, 2000 08:45          ill just do it this way since i keep leaving bits and pieces out k7 600mhz Giga-byte GA-7IXE mb clocked to 100mhz fsb 384 megs pc100 sdram set to cas 2 27gig maxtor ultradma/66 7200rpm hd 27gig maxtor ultradma/66 5400rpm hd sblive sound card Elsa Erazor X geforce256 video 32mb and a cheapy KTI pci 10/100base ethernet card win98se all shadowing and caching turned off with both L1 and L2 cache on super Bypass Enabled I think that covers it all oh I also have all the amd drivers for the Irongate chipset installed ------------------ Athlon Adept IP: Logged
Pieter Follower of Athlon	posted March 07, 2000 08:53          it would fly by your 600 if like your cpu the cache was at half speed :-) regards, Pieter IP: Logged
Raistlin Wish I had an Athlon	posted March 07, 2000 09:30          Heck it Still should even if his cache is set at 1/3 or even 1/4 hes got 1 and a half times the speed processor wise the cache is a big hit but it ain't that bigga hit something has got to be wrong elsewhere. ------------------ Athlon Adept IP: Logged
Raistlin Wish I had an Athlon	posted March 08, 2000 03:27          well guys my second Athlon system is going together tomorrow i got the Processor in today tomorrow I'll pick the new board think im gonna try a kx133 equipped board Namely the Epox 7KXA. they place i ordered the cpu tested it out to 1000mhz with the afterburner overclock pcb and a VOS32 cpu cooler which i already have so I'm gonna set it for that and see what happens should be able to get close to 4.75 or 5.00 times on it but we will see let you all know what happens IP: Logged
fredro Priest of Athlon	posted March 08, 2000 03:36          yeh keep us informed. IP: Logged
Pieter Follower of Athlon	posted March 09, 2000 13:04          its the L2 cache believe me, seti is a bitch of a program :-) regards, Pieter IP: Logged
Raistlin Wish I had an Athlon	posted March 11, 2000 07:43          Major flippin question does anyone make a Athlon cache clocking device or is that gonna be one of those figure it out yourself deals i found one by powerchips but you gotta use their goldfinger device to be able to order it I'm just wondering if their is one i can buy sperately since I already have a afterburner GFD Please oh please let their be otherwise i'll probably be stuck at 700 or 750 cause my athlon has a 1/2 cache div ------------------ Athlon Adept IP: Logged
Pieter Follower of Athlon	posted March 11, 2000 15:37          there is a guy called Jedi Mind Trick over on the 3dnow.net counterpart, he says he has his Athlon at 800 mhz and at half speed (L2cache) Maybe u can ask him. Regards, Pieter IP: Logged
fredro Priest of Athlon	posted March 17, 2000 16:26          hey armin, how long does it take that 1 ghz athlon to zip thru a unit? is it very overclockable? IP: Logged
Armin High Priest of Athlon	posted March 17, 2000 18:00          Didn't have it on SETI yet. It is a review unit, so I cannot rip it open, but I had it POST on a 110 MHz FSB at 1100 before the system locked up, so I think with a lower cache divider it might run just fine. Will see if I can get it onto SETI tomorrow. IP: Logged

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